Is anyone else shocked at the sudden jump in fee's-

 

Does this effect your programing-



 

 

Please note that as part of these changes, effective July 1, 2011, your authorized provider fees will be as outlined in the table below. If you have been recently notified of price increases, we apologize for the multiple messages. A revised Authorized Provider Agreement will be sent to you by the end of the year.

 

Pricing Schedule for American Red Cross Health & Safety Training       

Course name

AP fee per participant

First Aid

 $19

CPR + AED (Adult)

$19

CPR + AED (Pediatrics)

$19

First Aid + CPR + AED (Adult)

$27

First Aid + CPR + AED (Pediatrics)

$27

First Aid + CPR + AED (Adult + Pediatrics)

$27

CPR + AED for the Professional Rescuer

$27

Administering Emergency Oxygen

$10

Bloodborne Pathogens

$10

Responding to Emergencies (Adult + Pediatric)

$35

Emergency Medical Response

$19

Review/Challenge Class – First Aid

$19

Review/Challenge Class – CPR + AED (Adult)

$19

Review/Challenge Class – CPR + AED (Pediatrics)

$19

Review/Challenge Class – First Aid + CPR + AED (Adult)

$19

Review/Challenge Class – First Aid + CPR + AED (Adult + Pediatrics)

$19

Review/Challenge Class – CPR + AED for the Professional Rescuer

$19

To Whom It May Concern:Taylor, SabrinaReview/Challenge Class – Administering Emergency Oxygen

$8

Review/Challenge Class – Emergency Medical Response

$19

Sports Injury Prevention & First Aid with CPR

$27

Asthma Inhaler Training

$8

Basic Aid Training

$10

Cat and Dog First Aid

$19

Epinepherine Auto-Injector Training

$8

Wilderness First Aid

$19

Babysitter’s Training

$10

Nurse Assistant Training

$50

Learn to Swim – Levels 1-6

$5

Parend & Child Aquatics

$5

Basic Water Rescue Review

$5

Lifeguard

$35

Review Class – Lifeguarding

$35

Waterfront Lifeguarding

$35

Water Park

$35

*$35 will be the maximum fee per participant for participants taking training for multiple certifications.

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Oh this is ARC
Absolutely. In some cases this is nearly a 450% increase in fees with less than a month's notice. Between my 120 guards, around 15 guard classes we offer throughout the year, and certifying the rest of our parks and rec staff in cpr and first aid I'm not sure what we are going to do. It's my understanding that the Health and Safety division has run into a huge deficeit but I fear this change is going to force providers to other agencies.

Hey Sabrina,

 

i began a discussion on this in the American Red Cross Instructors group Discussions, ity has about 10 replies if you are interested in seeing what some of those memebers think...

Thanks Jim-



Schocked NO

The way they are handling it with their local chapters is terrible.  This SABA system is crazy they should have asked a high school computer club to make it.

 

$35 for lifeguarding when you must get CPRO with the LG and they both expire at the same time.

 

Kinda funny they closed down their forum page a few weeks ago when all this new stuff came out.

 

We are looking into other providers. 

 

Our chapter was probably way behind on the times.  We have never paid anything for Learn to Swim participants.  Now with less than 2 weeks notice they tell me we have to pay $5 a person.  I dont have that kind of money in my budget.  I dont know what we will do this summer.  I cant magically make money apper in my budget.  Looks like we may be going thru with black markers and marking out the words Red Cross on all of our flyers and such.   I think its sad.  I have been a big supported of the Red Cross, and even currently serve on the local board of directors....maybe they aren't the organization I need to be giving my time to anymore.  :(

 

 

Robbin- we were not paying for the Learn to Swim either, and we are looking at 150,000 in fees- this is a sad time.

I sent a note to my chapter about the fees and explained to them that we did not have that kind of money in our budget this year.  The chapter director called me and told me that it was ok.  National had told the chapters to send out the fee structure and if people contacted them with problems like ours that they would wave the fees until 12/31/11.  According to him they waived the fee for us and the local university.  So it might be worth a shot to talk to your chapter.  The way he explained it to me was that national knew there would be people in this situation, but that they also knew there would be places able to pay those kind of fees now.  Hope that helps everyone out some! 

 

This is interesting.  It sounds like the controversy the ARC got themselves into during WWII when they provided coffee at the train stations for traveling soldiers.  They started charging them for the coffee.  I often heard about that working with volunteers over 40 years later.  Many of the individuals indicated they would have gladly donated a little for the coffee, but they were quite put out that they were "charged."  I know the ARC lost a lot of subsequent support after that because many of these individuals refused to ever work with the ARC again. 

 

I wonder how many dollars they also lost in future donations for the few cents they earned from the coffee.  It sounds like they are going to lose a lot of water safety program business.

 

Sounds like another debacle brewing.

Oh I hope not. It is bad enough having to hear about this just in the aquatics community. I really don't think it will blow up as big, however it is one of those quiet sighs that will end an era...

on another note about Red Cross Controversies... I do have have to chime in as serving unofficially as one my region's historians, coffee and donuts is quite a different situation. The ARC's hand was being forced by the War Department to charge for the coffee and donuts during WWII (there is documented proof of this, and subsequent protesting of forcing the soldiers to pay by the ARC), while the ARC brought the change in fees upon themselves through a calculated internal decision.

I have volunteered with the disaster and service to armed forces side of the house for a few years, and we still catch a lot of flack about coffee and donuts. when ever I give a presentation, or have to talk to the media I  always bring a copy of the letter from the War Department demanding the charge for canteen services, and most people are surprised by that, and most say "if only someone showed me this 40 years ago, I would not of had hard feelings..."

 

however there is nothing to defend the new fees, it was a top down decision that just shows that national headquarters has no idea what is going on in chapter-land (let alone reality)... and is making me move my trainings to ASHI which really kills me, since I have been with the Red Cross since I was 15. Oh well it looks like I will just take my toys and play on the disaster side of the house now until that gets mucked up...

After over 40 years of training for the Red Cross and sitting on numerous local and regional boards, I am currently working on my certifications from American Heart.  I was even crying on Friday as I told the Health and Safety Director of our local chapter of my move.  I teach CPRO and First Aid at our local university to over 200 students and faculty a year.  I will be able to do that for under$1000 with AHA and it would have been over $7000  - not feasible.  The local trainer for AHA is wonderful and hopefully others will find a trainer to help.  I had also looked into National Safety Council and their materials are really good, the cost was just a little more than the AHA but still much less than ARC so if that is in your area give it a try.  I think at this time that the local pools will still be going with the ARC program for Lifeguarding because of the time commitment to get us all trained in Y.  I had heard that some pools are thinking that we could train the swim instructors in WSI and then not use the materials.  Anyone know more of what to do with that so as to bypass the $5 a person for lessons.  I am also the WSIT for the area.  I am very frustrated....and yes the charging for coffee and donuts is something that the Red Cross had to get over...the WWII vets are few in numbers so not many remember but now we have the new version of overcharging!!

Another interesting item. 

 

A friend just told me a name was misspelled on one of their students cert.  Instead of having to pay $35 for a new cert -- they just opened the Adobe Software fixed the name -- done.  I'm sure most high school students already know this and will be changing certs all the time. 


I commented before that they should of had some high school club design the system for them.  But maybe they did and now these kids will be selling certs on ebay.

 

 

 

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