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Solar Thermal application for heating indoor pools

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Comment by Robert P Barmore on September 7, 2011 at 6:25pm

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Comment by Bill Soukup on February 10, 2011 at 9:01am

In my view, there are some easy steps pool facilites can do as far as "green" goes.  A good share of the pumps over 5 HP should consider VFD's.  They can save many facilites about 50% on their electical costs.  See a VFD made for pools:


Pool lights can pay for themselves in a couple years with LED lights:


If your pump has a class "B" ratinig on the motor, you could switch to a higher class and cut your electrical consumption 10% or more. 


Pumps 3 HP and smaller should consider variable speed pumps.  There are higher efficient pool heaters, most are about 80% at best. 


The problem we find is that most companies won't spend any extra money for energy savings. 

Comment by James Kantorowicz on August 19, 2010 at 7:17am
City of Sunray Texas water park recoups the entire investment of their SolarAttic pool heating systems. The municipal water park installed SolarAttic alternative solar pool heating systems to heat their 117,000 pool. Documented by Greg Smith the water park coordinator the City experienced a total return on investment during its 2 season of operation. Greg said " its not often you try something new that pans out like this". Full company press release will be launched soon.
Comment by David Hoff on December 2, 2009 at 1:31pm


(if anyone knows the exact number of AG+IG pools in CA please reply in comments)

Here is the formula:

Length * Width * Average Depth * Multiplier = Gallons

Determine the Multiplier:

Rectangle, square, or free-form pool:multiplier = 7.5.

Round or Oval pool: multiplier = 5.9

So if in theory there are 5 million pools in CA and we average the aboveground and inground multiplier to 6.5; then average the pool size to say 15x30 and a depth of 5ft (just a guess but probably realistic); then using the FORMULA: 15x30x5x6.5 = ~ 15,000 gallons of water per pool rounded up for easy calculation.

Now 5 million pools times 15 thousand gallons completely evaporating each year as a rate of pool water evaporation equals:

75,000,000,000 gallons of water is evaporating in CA alone...that's BILLIONS OF GALLONS!

If a city water tank capacity is 3.5 million gallons then there are ~21,428.5 city water tanks being wasted in CA each and every year by uncovered swimming pools.

Comments encouraged !!
Comment by James Kantorowicz on July 25, 2009 at 7:27am
I invite you all to come check out my line of alternative solar pool heaters at the International Pool Spa Patio Expo in November. We will be exhibiting at booth 668 if you would like to schedule a meeting with me I still have some time slots open.

Comment by Kurt Ritter on July 21, 2009 at 11:08am
My product uses no electricity its made in the US
Comment by Kurt Ritter on July 21, 2009 at 11:08am
The Zpumper such an amazing simple toolfor your pool. Check out my website and watch the video on how it works and order yours today.
Comment by David Hoff on July 20, 2009 at 10:13pm
Comment by ; John Hurt on July 20, 2009 at 11:36am

Hi James, Thanks for the invitation to your blog.
Comment by James Kantorowicz on July 20, 2009 at 11:25am
John, do you have any pictures that you can post featuring your product.

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